厨房插座的安装高度

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JGJ242-2011第8.5.4条规定厨房厨电设备安装高度宜为1.0~1.3米，第8.5.1条规定要采用IP54级防护插座，而GB 50055 - 2011《通用用电设备配电设计规范》8.0.6 插座的形式和安装要求应符合下列规定：4 在潮湿场所，应采用具有防溅电器附件的插座，安装高度距地不应低于1. 5m 。
请问：厨房是潮湿场所吗？如是，那么1.0~1.3米肯定不符合GB 50055 - 2011。如不是，有必要采用IP54吗？纠结中

911room

不如借鉴他山之石吧，NEC2011规定如下：（后面是原文，在下英文水平有限，翻译不妥之处请多包涵）
第210.52条(C)操作台插座布置
（C）台面。住宅的厨房、食品室、餐室及类似区域，台面区的电源插座应根据210.52(C)(1)至 (C)(5)要求进行安装。
（1）台面墙壁区。每面达到300mm或更宽的台面墙壁上应装1个插座。沿墙水平测量，任意点至插座间距不超过600mm。
例外：如图210.52(C)(1)所示，台面安装灶具和水盆正对的墙面上，不应安装插座。
（2）岛型台面区。每个达到600mm×300mm或更大面积的岛型台面区，至少应安装1个插座。
（3）半岛型台面区。沿连接边一侧测量，每个达到600mm×300mm或更大面积的半岛型台面区，至少应安装1个插座。
（4）分隔台面区。被灶具、冰箱或水盆分隔开的台面，应按210.52(C)(1)要求进行考虑。如果灶具或水盆安装于岛型或半岛型台面，灶具或水盆后面的台面进深小于300mm，则应将此台面分作两个台面进行考虑。每个分隔台面应分别满足210.52(C)要求。
（5）插座位置。插座应安装于台面表面或不超过500mm的上方。为家用电器配套的插座应允许安装在柜体内。因摆放电器、水盆、灶具等造成空间狭小，而使插座不便接近的情况，应作为210.52(C)(1)“例外”看待，不在此要求范围之内。
注：参见406.5(E)台面插座的安装要求
例外：为满足条款（1）或（2）的要求，插座应被允许安装在台面以下不超过300mm的位置回路。安装台面以下的插座不应超出台面支撑面150mm之外。
(1) 结构被削弱的情况
(2)在完整岛型和半岛型台面上（无挡板、隔断等），无法在高于台面500mm处，例如吊柜，安装插座的情况。
(C) Countertops. In kitchens, pantries, breakfast rooms, dining rooms, and similar areas of dwelling units, receptacle outlets for countertop spaces shall be installed in accordance with 210.52(C)(1) through (C)(5).

(1) Wall Countertop Spaces. A receptacle outlet shall be installed at each wall countertop space that is 300 mm (12 in.) or wider. Receptacle outlets shall be installed so that no point along the wall line is more than 600 mm (24 in.) measured horizontally from a receptacle outlet in that space.
Exception: Receptacle outlets shall not be required on a wall directly behind a range, counter-mounted cooking unit, or sink in the installation described in Figure 210.52(C)(1).
(2) Island Countertop Spaces. At least one receptacle shall be installed at each island countertop space with a long dimension of 600 mm (24 in.) or greater and a short dimension of 300 mm (12 in.) or greater.
(3) Peninsular Countertop Spaces. At least one receptacle outlet shall be installed at each peninsular countertop space with a long dimension of 600 mm (24 in.) or greater and a short dimension of 300 mm (12 in.) or greater. A peninsular countertop is measured from the connecting edge.
(4) Separate Spaces. Countertop spaces separated by range tops, refrigerators, or sinks shall be considered as separate countertop spaces in applying the requirements of 210.52(C)(1). If a range, counter-mounted cooking unit, or sink is installed in an island or peninsular countertop and the depth of the countertop behind the range, counter-mounted cooking unit, or sink is less than 300 mm (12 in.), the range, counter-mounted cooking unit, or sink shall be considered to divide the countertop space into two separate countertop spaces. Each separate countertop space shall comply with the applicable requirements in 210.52(C).
(5) Receptacle Outlet Location. Receptacle outlets shall be located on or above, but not more than 500 mm (20 in.) above, the countertop. Receptacle outlet assemblies listed for the application shall be permitted to be installed in countertops. Receptacle outlets rendered not readily accessible by appliances fastened in place, appliance garages, sinks, or range tops as covered in 210.52(C)(1), Exception, or appliances occupying dedicated space shall not be considered as these required outlets.
Informational Note: See 406.5(E) for requirements for installation of receptacles in countertops.
Exception to (5): To comply with the conditions specified in (1) or (2), receptacle outlets shall be permitted to be mounted not more than 300 mm (12 in.) below the counter-top. Receptacles mounted below a countertop in accordance with this exception shall not be located where the countertop extends more than 150 mm (6 in.) beyond its support base.
(1) Construction for the physically impaired
(2) On island and peninsular countertops where the countertop is flat across its entire surface (no backsplashes, dividers, etc.) and there are no means to mount a receptacle within 500 mm (20 in.) above the countertop, such as an overhead cabinet

911room

对上述条款的图解

911room

对浴室规定如下

NEC2011第210.52条
（D）浴室。住宅内的浴室，应在距每个水盆外边缘900mm以内，至少安装1个插座。插座应安装在墙面或邻近水盆或水盆台面的隔断墙上，也可安装在台面上或水盆柜台面以下不超过300mm一侧或正面。为家用电器配套的插座应允许安装在柜体内。
注：参见406.5(E)台面插座的安装要求

(D) Bathrooms. In dwelling units, at least one receptacle outlet shall be installed in bathrooms within 900 mm (3 ft) of the outside edge of each basin. The receptacle outlet shall be located on a wall or partition that is adjacent to the basin or basin countertop, located on the countertop, or installed on the side or face of the basin cabinet not more than 300 mm (12 in.) below the countertop. Receptacle outlet assemblies listed for the application shall be permitted to be installed in the countertop.
Informational Note: See 406.5(E) for requirements for installation of receptacles in countertops.

尺短寸长

谢谢 911room 。

8.5.1 表8.5.1——厨房、卫生间要求“ IP54  型单相两孔、三孔电源插座”；
8.5.3 洗衣机、分体式空调、电热水器及厨房的电源插座宜选用带开关控制的电源插座，未封闭阳台及洗衣机应选用防护等级为 IP54 型电源插座。

厨房、卫生间插座有必要采用 IP54 吗？

911room

回复 5# 尺短寸长
当然不是必须的。

防溅是指插座不接插头，盖着盖儿的时候，如果插上了插头，而此时盖子不能复位，还有IP54一说吗？
所以，要保证的是0区1区之内不出现插座，而不是限制插座类别，所以NEC里规定的都是距离，而不是要求产品本身如何如何。

尺短寸长

回复 6# 911room

赞同 911room 的“当然不是必须的”。{:handshake:}  

要保证的还有 2 区内不出现插座。

除了特殊工业场所等环境的专用插座，像住宅建筑之类的民用建筑物内插座，规定“应选用防护等级为 IP54 型电源插座”是否太过？
选用防溅型插座应该可以了。

1、设计人员按 JGJ242-2011 规定将插座距地 1.0~1.3m 布置，审图以 50055 - 2011“潮湿场所。。。安装高度距地不应低于1. 5m ”提意见，设计人员咋办？
2、设计人员按 50055 - 2011“潮湿场所，应采用具有防溅电器附件的插座”选用防溅型插座，审图以 JGJ242-2011“应选用防护等级为 IP54 型电源插座”提意见，设计人员又咋办？

设计人员纠结死。{:sweat:}

newbook

目前国内厨房设置的插座高度（底边距地）：防溅单相两孔、三孔电源插座1.3~1.4m（2~3个并列）；抽油烟机插座2.0m；消毒柜插座0.4m，冰箱插座0.4m，燃气报警器插座（门框上方0.05m/吸顶/2.3m）

shan

回复  尺短寸长
当然不是必须的。

防溅是指插座不接插头，盖着盖儿的时候，如果插上了插头，而此时盖子 ...
911room 发表于 2012-4-18 13:48

                               
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    插上插头，盖子不能复位？貌似可以的吧

尺短寸长

插上插头，盖子不能复位？貌似可以的吧
shan 发表于 2012-4-18 17:16

                               
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盖子可能能够复位（得看用电器具插头、连接线的情况了），但此时的 IP54 还是否能保证？

hbsjzsjy

复位都可能很难实现，我装修的时候用的西门子的防溅盒就不行

gdx8785

对于住宅而言,一旦房主拿到钥匙,自行进行装修,这些个规定还有用吗?

尺短寸长

不说这个“自行进行装修”，就做个毛坯房，电气设计人员就已经快被相互“打架”的规范给“搞死”了。{:mad:}

han2003

一般按习惯是1.2m即可了